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Glazing Green Oak Frames

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Direct & External Glazing Methods

There are two main approaches to fitting glass to green oak frames:

♦ Direct - where the glazing is mounted either within, or onto the outer face of, the green oak frame.

♦ External - where the glazing is carried by a separate frame fixed to the exterior of the green oak frame.

Whilst we specialise in the fabrication and installation of structural oak frames, we do not currently supply or fit glazing ourselves. However, here are some examples of each which are in common use.

Direct Glazing

It is possible to glaze directly over, or within, a green oak frame. In many cases, direct glazing can be the cheapest and most practical option, particularly where there may be corner posts. We have built many frames where this method has been used to good effect.

Its main disadvantage, other than the shrinkage and movement of the green oak as it matures, is that it can be difficult to incorporate opening windows. Whilst roof glazing can sometimes be carried by Capex-type channels, there may be the need for a stabilised frame to mount a glazed roof on a conservatory.

Here are four common direct glazing methods...

♦ Glazed units may be mounted within the oak frame, secured and sealed with seasoned oak glazing bars inside and out [fig 1]. Whilst this method can perform well, it is not recommended for exposed locations. Additional sealing against the elements can be achieved by fitting outer bars that enclose the edges of the posts.

Glazing fitted within the frame between beads

♦ The glass can be mounted within a rebate cut in the outer face of the oak frame with seasoned oak glazing bars, similar to the method above [fig 2]. It provides a more minimalist join between glass and oak frame, giving the appearance of a window built into the structural frame when viewed from the inside, but can add complexity and cost to the green oak frame and is not recommended for more than moderately exposed locations.

Glazing fitted within a rebated frame with beads

♦ Similar to the method above, the glass can be mounted within a shallower rebate cut in the outer face of the oak frame and capped with an oak board fitted to the outer face of the post [fig 3]. It can give the appearance of a window built into the structural frame when viewed from both inside and outside, though adds slightly less complexity and cost to the green oak frame. We recommend this approach where a frame may be exposed to driving rain. However, external corner posts can appear slightly bulkier where capping boards are mitred to meet.

Glazing fitted within a rebated frame with external cover boards

♦ The glazed units can be mounted on the outer face of the green oak frame and capped with an oak board [fig 4] to match the width of the post, similar to the method above. Of the various methods of direct glazing, this best protects the green oak frame from the elements as the green oak dries and matures. As with the method above, it can give the appearance of a window built into the structural frame when viewed from both inside and out without the need for rebating into the structural oak frame. However, more so than above, external corner posts may appear bulkier where capping boards are mitred to meet.

Glazing fitted to the outside of a frame with external cover boards

External Glazing Frame

In exposed locations, you may be best off with a green oak structural frame supporting a lighter external frame to carry the roofs, windows and doors.

An external frame made of seasoned oak (or coated aluminium or other material) can be attached to the green oak frame at specific points to provide a stable, sealed envelope around the whole structure [fig 5]. This means there may be fewer green oak intermediate posts, allowing more light to enter and giving more scope for creativity and minimalism in the oak frame design.

Glazing fitted within an externally mounted casement

The design, materials and performance of externally mounted glazing systems will vary according to manufacturers specifications. An external frame can comprise opening windows, doors, vents, roof lights, etc. On the roof, it would carry the glass on its own common rafters. This offers the advantages of a light and stable exterior with an internal structure to suit the character of your house.

A rebated oak frame

The method of glazing will affect the cost of a frame. Rebated timbers [fig 2 & 3] require a greater amount of carpentry, whilst those without rebates [fig 1, 4 & 5] are simpler and less time consuming.


Examples of Methods

Glazing fitted within the frame between beads

Direct glazing fitted within the oak frame and secured with seasoned oak internal and external glazing bars (see fig 1).

Glazing fitted to the outside of a frame with external cover boards

Direct glazing mounted upon the outer face of an oak frame and secured with external boards (see fig 4).

Glazing fitted within an externally mounted casement

External glazing and roof frame supported by an internal oak frame (see fig 5).

Screws and Nails into Green Oak

Seasoned oak glazing bars, capping boards and external glazing frames need to be attached to the green oak frame. They are normally fixed with screws or lost-head nails into the green oak. Screws and nails should be stainless steel, brass or high-quality galvanized. This is because bright iron will rust and tannic acid in the green oak will react with the iron to cause black staining and corrosion.

However, stainless steel and brass screws tend to be softer than bright iron or galvanized screws so they need to be fixed with greater care to prevent snapping. This requires drilling thread holes prior to fixing. Occasionally, there may be insufficient room for drilling, in which case a bright iron screw of the same size can be screwed in and unscrewed to create a thread hole for the stainless or brass screw.

In addition, care should be taken not to over-tighten screws to prevent snapping. If you are using a cordless screw driver it is sometimes best to select as low a torque setting as practicable with a view to tightening manually.

More Information

Links to sites offering details of fitting and finishing, as well as useful calculators and tables, can be found in our Planning & Building Information Resource.

.. are our recommended suppliers of direct face mounted windows and glazed roofs.

.. are our recommended supplier of externally mounted and stabilised timber windows and doors.

Cleaning & Finishing an Oak Frame

Cleaned oak

A frame will need to be cleaned once it is in place and shielded from the elements.

Finishing
Cleaning & Finishing

Oak Framed Building Projects

Mono-pitch Conservatory

Check out some of the green oak framed building projects we've undertaken over the years in our Gallery.

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Oak Frame Gallery


This is a brief overview of some green oak frame glazing methods, rather than a comprehensive guide. Methods of fixing and sealing will vary according to the needs of the project and any manufacture's specifications. Whilst glazing may be undertaken as part of a self-build or DIY project by those with sufficient competence, this should be accompanied by appropriate professional guidance.

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